The Black Board

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Welcome Lewis fans!

Author Topic: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?  (Read 1871 times)

pharmmajor

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 5
    • View Profile
What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« on: October 29, 2009, 08:26:06 pm »
I myself think that the right and the left are too screwed-up, and I've found that libertarianism offers the best, most practical ideologies. How about the rest of you?
Logged

Kira

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 490
  • Why am I so fascinated by you?
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 12:18:45 am »
Well, I suppose that libertarianism would be a sharp choice for a lot of well meaning people but for me Kiraism is the only choice. It is the belief in myself and what I can do and that is all I need.
Logged
" You must bide your time and hold out for hope."

Poopsie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 538
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 10:49:48 pm »
Personally, I love Libraries
Logged

Kira

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 490
  • Why am I so fascinated by you?
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2009, 03:12:03 am »
I don't understand this gang mentality, everyone wants to be apart of a group.
I suppose if you HAD to look at it from a by standers point of view, all sides have their goods, odds, and evens. But if you take away the nice suits, streamers, nice comfy office space, that's all you have left.

It doesn't matter if it's democrat, republican, blood, crip, montague, or capulet. It's the same old choose sides or you'll be left behind bit. If you looked at this from high school rankings, the republicans would be the rich prep kids, the democrats would be the cool out of town kids and the libertarians would be the after school activity group.
Logged
" You must bide your time and hold out for hope."

tommydodger1958

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 144
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 06:38:07 pm »
the older I'm getting, the more I tend to be a libertarian. I think there should be no vice laws, only taxes for those vices. If you are a perv, then you pay taxes on your perversion. If you like drugs, then you register your liking of drugs and you buy them plus taxes. All other income taxes could be cut and only use taxes exist. That way we have the freedom to chose to be taxed or not by our choises we make. 
Now, by allowing "perversions" I don't mean holding someone, or doing things to anyone against that other person's will. Those laws would still exist, but for consenting adults there would be no restrictions.
But we're a long way from ever having any open mindedness like this in the US. There are too many out there trying to save my soul. But then, that is another rant.
Logged
Lennon was right.
there are three leaders. one is a boy scout, doesn't drink or mess around. one has a mistress. the last is an alcoholic. which do you choose? the womanizer= FDR. the alcoholic=Churchill. Boy scout=Hitler. remember Hitler was elected. then so was nixon.

Kira

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 490
  • Why am I so fascinated by you?
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 01:43:59 am »
I'd love to save your soul Tommy but what can I say, I don't like to get my hands dirty.  :P
Logged
" You must bide your time and hold out for hope."

Sheila

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 12:00:22 am »
I like my philosophy - Do all that you can, walk away from the all the rest.  I stopped trying to please people a long time ago, and I have more friends than ever - not many but more than ever.
Sheila
Logged

Kira

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 490
  • Why am I so fascinated by you?
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 12:33:31 pm »
True friends are all that count, the rest are just there for the moment, an when they are gone it's as if they were never there to begin with. I'm not sure if anyone has said this yet because our welcome mat seems to be missing.

Werlcome to the black board.
Logged
" You must bide your time and hold out for hope."

belgiandude

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 06:35:22 am »
@tommydodger1958: what about all the things you take for granted that the government provides using your taxes? stuff like defense, police, public utilities such as roads, bridges, libraries...

some of these exameples cost more than the use taxes would generate, but they are needed none the less. however I do think their should be more control on how the government spends your tax money and politicians and other policy makers should be held accountable for how they use taxes.
Logged

Kira

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 490
  • Why am I so fascinated by you?
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 06:25:24 pm »
Welcome back Tommy, I was starting to think I was alone on this little rock. I have no problem with paying taxes and I understand that things need to be done and someone has to pay for it. That being said I do believe that they should spend more of our tax money on building more effective schools and less on making the yellow brick road more attractive.
Logged
" You must bide your time and hold out for hope."

Old Bitter Bastard

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 18
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2010, 04:50:41 pm »
Our federal government was never meant to have the taxation and spending power that it does today. The farther away that you send your money the less control you will have over it. It's a pretty simple concept. The state taxes should be greater and the federal taxes should be reduced. You stand a better chance at seeing your tax money and its effective use if it is done at the state level rather then the federal.
Logged

tommydodger1958

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 144
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2010, 03:49:42 am »
Hi all.
Wow, I didn't know it was so long since I was here. Bad weather and baseball combined is a cruel mistress.
Justice Oliver Windell Holmes, a long standing Republican, once said, "taxes are the price we pay for living in a civilized society".
Then came Reagan.
Taxes were now wrong and "socialist".  Liberals were labeled as "tax and spend", a dirty word 'liberal', Means free thinking actually.
But, now the difference is the Democrats tax and spend. Republicans just spend and run up the bill. Then blame it on the demorcrat party. Can't use the word "democratic" that would be wrong. The Democrats have never learned how to use that argument.
In Reagan's time, in Oregon, there was a revolt that led to "term limits". Unfortunately, that meant the folks that controlled the spending were the first to go-- the Republicans from Central and Eastern Oregon-- they kept the wild spending urban Democrats in check, those from the West part of the state, in the big city. Now, the committees that controlled spending in the years before Ronnie are now controlled by the large cities and counties, not the exact people that sould be in control of others billfolds.  But, Reagan led the "revolution" that cut taxes and opened the doors to disasters as in the gulf of Mexico. Don't ask don't tell as far as regulations are concerned, just get er done. Yet he, and they, get a free pass. Such is being a political icon. The only thing he really did was say"don't worry, be happy", and live for two terms-the first in my life since Eisenhower.
 It's all for the chase for the almighty dollar. Unfortunately, the great equalizer of wealth in this country was WWII. Pres Roosevelt and his GI bill gave those who never before had a chance at wealth, a chance to gain it. However, their grand children don't know what  their grand parents  lived through in the depression and WWII, they just know wealth. Now they have decided to pull up the ladders for those who don't have the means to climb. There has never been any government law, or program, that benifited the working class brought forth by the Republican party since the time of Theodore Roosevelt. Anything we have is an extention of the New Deal under FDR or Lyndon Johnson, since then our government as been skewed toward the rich, against the middle class, or poor.
My thoughts of libertarianism are that we should allow all the vices and tax them. Much like Nevada. The reality of it all is that we can't vote Republican and have hopes. You can vote Democratic and hope the Republicans win enough seats to keep them from going crazy with socialism.
Logged
Lennon was right.
there are three leaders. one is a boy scout, doesn't drink or mess around. one has a mistress. the last is an alcoholic. which do you choose? the womanizer= FDR. the alcoholic=Churchill. Boy scout=Hitler. remember Hitler was elected. then so was nixon.

prankster

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 53
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 12:54:15 am »
I was once a card carrying dues paid up member of the Libertarian Party. Then I came to realize that nationally our party numbered about 7,000 souls if memory serves me. So I came to think-fuhgeddaboudit! Supposedly there are 250,000 libertarian registered voters.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2010, 01:34:08 am by prankster »
Logged
"The first divine was the first rogue who met the first fool"
Voltaire

Kira

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 490
  • Why am I so fascinated by you?
    • View Profile
Re: What are your thoughts on libertarianism?
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 10:19:40 pm »
See, I've said this before...Kiraism is the way to go!
Logged
" You must bide your time and hold out for hope."